swindon hammer 3:20 Sun Jan 22
The John Lyall Years - Robert Banks
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Apologies if this has been mentioned before but is anyone watching this series from Robert Banks on YouTube?
The latest episode is the start of season 84/85 (My first season following West Ham) where John Lyall almost left to join QPR that summer.
Great clips, great music and full of interesting historical Information about West Ham during the Lyall era.
Highly recommended. It deserves far more views than it currently gets.
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Eastside surge
3:21 Sun Jan 22
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Been watching these lately really good .
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Manuel
3:39 Sun Jan 22
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I've seen a couple and on the face of it they are good, and like you say the music, but trips down memory lane are not everyone's cup of tea.
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Swiss.
3:46 Sun Jan 22
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I’ll have a butchers.
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twoleftfeet
3:49 Sun Jan 22
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They are fantastic to watch, really enjoying them.
Lovely seeing the old ground.
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swindon hammer
4:31 Sun Jan 22
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Each episode is only about 20 minutes so it’s easy to watch although I only discovered the channel just before Christmas so I was binging over the holidays!
It’s so well put together.
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Orange Hammer
7:05 Sun Jan 22
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Fantastic, I started going in 79, so it brings back so many memories. Forgot all about Lyall going to QPR. What was he thinking.
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Takashi Miike
8:57 Sun Jan 22
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I've got no connection to the author but the book 'They Played For John Lyall - The West Ham Years' by Tim Crane is a must buy for any fan. It's brilliant
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swindon hammer
9:06 Sun Jan 22
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Orange Hammer,
It does seem a bit strange to think Lyall was going to leave us to join QPR.
There wasn’t a massive amount of money in football back then in terms of wages like there is now so I’m guessing QPR offered him a considerable raise.
It sounds like Lyall was on 150k a year at West Ham in 1984 as that is what we were asking for in compensation for the final year of his contract.
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Leeshere
9:46 Sun Jan 22
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Before my time, but maybe if Lyall had left in 84, we could have got an up and coming Scottish manager at Aberdeen in as his replacement.
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Northern Sold
9:48 Sun Jan 22
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Found his book the Irrational Hatred of Luton and absolute bore fest... but... WFH tomorrow so will have this on in the back ground... will report back
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jfk
10:17 Sun Jan 22
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Wasn’t aware of this,thanks for posting. Like orange started going to matches with mates 78/79 season.
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swindon hammer
11:27 Sun Jan 22
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Leeshere,
there was no chance Ferguson would have left Aberdeen to join West Ham in 1984.
He turned down the Tottenham & Rangers jobs during that period.
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Gary Strodders shank
11:39 Sun Jan 22
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I remember buying an irrational hatred of Luton & his follow up in the early 90s. Ive watched some of the Lyall stuff already but will watch a lot more in due course.
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jimmy iron
12:16 Mon Jan 23
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Cheers for this, gonna check it out .
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zico
12:26 Mon Jan 23
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In John's book I think he suggested the package at QPR would have allowed him to retire in a few years rather then in 94 when he did pack up. So I suspect the fact that when the board asked for compensation and he didn't push it his sacking in 88 probably left a bitter taste considering he didn't push for the move in 84. Some say he put his feet under the table a bit after that but 85 86 was still to come. Incredible to think they were haggling over a couple of hundred grand when apparently it would take 7 million to get rid of Moyes now.
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swindon hammer
12:13 Sun Feb 26
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The latest episode of this great series on YouTube is the start of the famous 85/86 season.
Shows a picture of McAvennie in pre season wearing the 83-85 home shirt which I had never seen before.
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Troy McClure
12:53 Sun Feb 26
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Great vids these
What part of Swindon you from Swindon hammer? I’m Covy
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swindon hammer
1:10 Sun Feb 26
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Troy,
used to live up Old Town but have lived near Bath for a while now.
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Alex G
1:10 Sun Feb 26
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When I was a kid in the eighties I thought Lyall was positively ancient. Always find it surprising that he was only 49 when he left us.
Similarly Brian Clough was 58 when he managed a club for the last time. I just felt he was so much older than that.
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zico
1:40 Sun Feb 26
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swindon hammer 12:13 Sun Feb 26
Not just the West Ham shirt, him wearing the St Mirren shirt with the curly ginger hair is a throwback. He certainly got noticed with the bleach! If you are enjoying these the book They Played For John Lyall - The West Ham Years by Tim Crane is ab absolutely fabulous read. I'm reading it again for the second time. One incredibly sad story is the one on Mark Smith. Never saw him play but apparently he was a really good full back. Sadly he had an incredibly rare life threatening medical condition which he kept hidden from people. How he played any football at all is incredible. Really sad story. One that makes me wince was Greg Campbell. Bobby Campbell's son who played the odd game. Went on for a sliding tackle on a bit of ground rarely used at Chadwell Heath and knackered his knee as he slid over an old metal tennis net piece buried in the ground. Ouch to say the least. John Lyall too him bleeding to hospital in his new Jaguar with cream seats. Can see David Moyes driving Fabianski for a check up yesterday can you!
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